Neferisis
Hans Afficionado
Just a dreamer holding on to what is precious: hope
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Post by Neferisis on Feb 1, 2011 4:21:22 GMT 8
Gg, I also believe actors are more and more in control of their own careers, their own particular techniques for acting or working ethics. Past are the times when the big studios managed and run their lives for them. I've read about Garland, and how she became addicted for a lifetime to drugs because of slimming pills. How sad  I don't know if movie actors are yet free of the trials of "stardom" (or "stardoom" we might say in cases). Sometimes, fame can transform into a nuisance since the masses tend to regard "known people" and their identities as public property. I remember going to Cuba to perform -as a VERY unknown dancer I must say- and met a TV actor from that country, he just came and go everywhere and no one never asked for his autograph. No futility of stardom there in Cuba... no freedom of speech or democracy too --he he ;D "Mamet wrote a book that basically said -- yeah -- learn the f-ing technique and be professional..." Gg, HILARIOUS ;D And that's so right! Did you know that when the Iron wall came down in the USSR, there were some "hidden and buried" late Stanislavsky's books in which he refuted most of his approach?! I think these writings depicted with more detail what the method really was, spoke of the actors' excesses and the outcomes of his last decades experiencing it. "The learning process is really never over", you say, Gg... just the way Stanislavsky intended us to understand  "The journey is always going to be unique to the individual." Just as in life, Gg! And I couldn't agree more. Any art (dance, writing, acting, painting, etc.) can't be fully taught or transmitted to the other. You can teach the technique, but the soul has to do its job by itself and find some trascendence and spirituality out of this. I think maturity, letting the ego dim down, as well as immerse with heart an soul into creation is a good combination to keep off the dangers of loosing ourselves on the creative journey. And perseverance, perseverance and... perseverance. ;D |
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Neferisis
Hans Afficionado
Just a dreamer holding on to what is precious: hope
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Post by Neferisis on Feb 1, 2011 4:31:53 GMT 8
I think METHOD is an approach -- a tool. It works for some and I certainly employ in the scene, and to some extent in my preparation. I suspect that anyone who has worked with it as tool uses it to some extent, and finds value in it, because it is a potent way to tap into your organic experience and bring truth to a character. But it is a philosophically double edged sword. I suspect, from the little he has said, that he felt the potential of Method's tools and employed them. What better way to play a villain without becoming one!!!! Look back into your history when you did some small villainous thing, felt some villainous thought, and let yourself live there in the character. Haha, very true. I remember when I was playing this character last year who was a real jerk and I had to kind of get into the mindset of a rough school boy (I was cast as a boy primarily). It was challenging but I just thought of some of the boys I knew in school and based my initial character around them. I agree with the metaphor of it being like a double edged sword though. You kind of have to find a happy medium that you're comfortable with that won't lead you to either extreme. That's probably the most challenging part of acting: finding that point where it's right on target. I used to be a dancer, so I never felt the dangers of "becoming the character" onstage --I was busy grand jeteing!- ;D BUT, now that I'm writing my first novel, it is difficult for me not to become one of my characters, not to cry -and laugh- with them. A double edged sword, Scotbritt! |
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Post by Scotbritt on Feb 1, 2011 5:07:59 GMT 8
Any art (dance, writing, acting, painting, etc.) can't be fully taught or transmitted to the other. You can teach the technique, but the soul has to do its job by itself and find some trascendence and spirituality out of this. I totally agree. Hence why whenever I get asked by either a professor or a friend what my writing style is I can't fully put it into words because I feel that it's my own, not necessarily "like" anyone else's. I may draw on other authors for inspiration but ultimately I have my own unique style which is how it is with a lot of artists. It reminds me of when you're learning to write and how you hold the pencil because everyone holds it a different way even though you're taught to hold it a certain way. Sorry for the crude example but it was the first thing that sprang to mind,  |
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Post by Gg on Feb 1, 2011 8:17:51 GMT 8
Here's one of Hans' quotes on the subject. Though the interview got a few things wrong (for example, he didn't actually go to school with Orlando Bloom). The teacher he talks about now runs youth education in the arts. You can see him here: vimeo.com/6944642 see the article here: www.hansmatheson.org/zhint_scotsman.html"Drama college gave me confidence first and foremost, and a belief in myself. I had a teacher called Kevin Dowsett, who was fantastic, I couldn’t have asked for better. I owe a lot to him. He encouraged and supported me all the way along. I miss the innocence of it all. At that time in your life, you’re doing it for all the right reasons, you’re allowed to fail, there is no pressure and you’re not making any money out of it. "I think the basis of becoming an actor is to get to know yourself and have the confidence to play and get up in front of people. Risk is great; you’ve got to take risks or life gets too predictable, even if it’s just asking a girl out. The worst that can happen is that she says no - but what if she says yes? I’ve learned to take risks."' that's not actually the quote I was looking for, but I have discovered a couple broken links...  If I can find the old files I'll work on getting those fixed. Picture me digging... |
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Post by Gg on Feb 1, 2011 8:30:24 GMT 8
P.S. Nef and Scottbrit... you guys rock for actually reading all that!
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Neferisis
Hans Afficionado
Just a dreamer holding on to what is precious: hope
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Post by Neferisis on Feb 1, 2011 10:33:59 GMT 8
P.S. Nef and Scottbrit... you guys rock for actually reading all that! I'm your groupie girl! ;D Yeah, I noticed there are some broken links in the articles section, Gg. The more I read about Hans, the more unique an authentic artist he seems to my eyes. Very focused and centered in what he wants. Most people prefer the formulas, the already traveled path. He goes his own way, this is very admirable, he takes that risk, the challenge of it. |
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Post by Scotbritt on Feb 1, 2011 12:53:51 GMT 8
Here's one of Hans' quotes on the subject. Though the interview got a few things wrong (for example, he didn't actually go to school with Orlando Bloom). The teacher he talks about now runs youth education in the arts. You can see him here: vimeo.com/6944642 see the article here: www.hansmatheson.org/zhint_scotsman.html"Drama college gave me confidence first and foremost, and a belief in myself. I had a teacher called Kevin Dowsett, who was fantastic, I couldn’t have asked for better. I owe a lot to him. He encouraged and supported me all the way along. I miss the innocence of it all. At that time in your life, you’re doing it for all the right reasons, you’re allowed to fail, there is no pressure and you’re not making any money out of it. "I think the basis of becoming an actor is to get to know yourself and have the confidence to play and get up in front of people. Risk is great; you’ve got to take risks or life gets too predictable, even if it’s just asking a girl out. The worst that can happen is that she says no - but what if she says yes? I’ve learned to take risks."' that's not actually the quote I was looking for, but I have discovered a couple broken links... If I can find the old files I'll work on getting those fixed. Picture me digging... The interview and article were really insightful. I too think that whenever I read something new about Hans I just start to appreciate him as a human being more and more because he's honest about everything he says and isn't afraid to speak his mind. And I know exactly where he's coming from with the whole being embarrassed thing via love scenes. I personally did not have to act out in any way related to that but I did have to block a particularly difficult dream sequence between three women and one man in which the man gets ravished at the end...fortunately none of which were naked. It was just overtly sexual... I also like finding out new things about him whenever I read an interview with him. Like before I read this one I had no idea that he drank coffee. It's little things like that that make my day, (Not that I drink coffee myself but that's not the point...) |
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Post by lynette on Feb 2, 2011 6:11:09 GMT 8
Here's one of Hans' quotes on the subject. Though the interview got a few things wrong (for example, he didn't actually go to school with Orlando Bloom). The teacher he talks about now runs youth education in the arts. You can see him here: vimeo.com/6944642 see the article here: www.hansmatheson.org/zhint_scotsman.html"Drama college gave me confidence first and foremost, and a belief in myself. I had a teacher called Kevin Dowsett, who was fantastic, I couldn’t have asked for better. I owe a lot to him. He encouraged and supported me all the way along. I miss the innocence of it all. At that time in your life, you’re doing it for all the right reasons, you’re allowed to fail, there is no pressure and you’re not making any money out of it. "I think the basis of becoming an actor is to get to know yourself and have the confidence to play and get up in front of people. Risk is great; you’ve got to take risks or life gets too predictable, even if it’s just asking a girl out. The worst that can happen is that she says no - but what if she says yes? I’ve learned to take risks."' that's not actually the quote I was looking for, but I have discovered a couple broken links... If I can find the old files I'll work on getting those fixed. Picture me digging... So it was his acting coach? Where was all the idea that Hans attended the same school as Orlando Bloom?   |
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Post by Gg on Feb 2, 2011 7:19:11 GMT 8
It was written in this article, and can be found elsewhere: www.hansmatheson.org/zhint_scotsman.htmlHans went to what is called the Conti (Italian) school in London which was attached to Avondale. Orlando Bloom apparently took an A Level 2 year Drama course at the Fine Arts College at Belsize Park. The both grew up in the Canterbury area but they didn't cross paths at school. Just a press mistake that seems to have taken on biographical credibility despite the fact that there's no actual connect between them! The man in the video was his acting tutor. His teacher does not work there anymore though. He is the founder of a youth educational theater company, and runs that now. |
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Post by Virgil Reality on Feb 2, 2011 8:19:45 GMT 8
A lesson to take everything you read on the internet with a grain of salt. This happens a lot and a lesson that mediocre journalists, thse who get their information online, should know. Maybe they think there's only one school in Canterbury. gg, I think the article you refer to is one that was online years ago - circa Les Mis or even Family Money that ws on IMdb but today the link goes nowhere. For some reeason, HMO never had a copy - it's that long ago But there was some phrase in that article that was probably what spoke to me - "Whoa, there's more to this guy than just a pretty face" - something about "releasing potent feelings" |
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Post by Gg on Feb 2, 2011 10:12:14 GMT 8
You know where it was?! It was back in the day when the cast interviews for LES MIS where on the old incarnation of SONY!!!!
That makes us very old...
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Post by lynette on Feb 3, 2011 0:42:59 GMT 8
It was written in this article, and can be found elsewhere: www.hansmatheson.org/zhint_scotsman.htmlHans went to what is called the Conti (Italian) school in London which was attached to Avondale. Orlando Bloom apparently took an A Level 2 year Drama course at the Fine Arts College at Belsize Park. The both grew up in the Canterbury area but they didn't cross paths at school. Just a press mistake that seems to have taken on biographical credibility despite the fact that there's no actual connect between them! The man in the video was his acting tutor. His teacher does not work there anymore though. He is the founder of a youth educational theater company, and runs that now. Thanks, Gg. |
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Post by Gg on Feb 3, 2011 8:03:00 GMT 8
Trying, but sorry about the other mis-communications. Maybe this one worked!
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If I can find the old files I'll work on getting those fixed.
