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Post by Gg on Feb 3, 2009 8:06:12 GMT 8
Hans was 20 years old when he made "Stella Does Trick" -- not as young as Kelly MacDonald, who played Stella, though! Also important, Coky Geidroyc was the director, who directed Hans in "The Virgin Queen" and Tom Hardy in the latest "Wuthering Heights".
That's a low-lands Scots accent you're hearing from Kelly, which in the film "My Name is Joe" (coincidently with a co-stars of Hans' from "Les Mis", Peter Mullan and David McKay, as Liam and Joe) was given English subtitles -- because it is a hard accent to understand. Much different when you travel farther North in Scotland, and onto the Islands, which is an accent much easy to understand if American or Southern England accents are easier to decifer for you.
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Post by lynette on Feb 3, 2009 20:44:14 GMT 8
I thought, that he was almost 22 years old ...
Filming has been around year 1996.
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Post by Gg on Feb 3, 2009 23:29:46 GMT 8
"Stella" was premiered 9 November 1996 (when he was 21) at the London Film Festival, but it was filmed earlier. Hans was born in 1975, the shooting in 1995/96, so 20! He was 22 on "Les Mis".
When films are premiered, when they are released "domestically" and when/if they go "wide" or to DVD can squew the audience's perception of where their making actually fit into history. Post-production (re-shoots, ADR), distribution, and final "release" can take on a life and history of its own, while the cast are moving forward into other projects. Hopefully.
FOR example, Kelly, who played "Stella", was noticed in the US for her role in "Trainspotting" long before anyone saw her work in "Stella". There was in fact 3 years between seeing her in the theater with Ewan McGregor and seeing her on HBO (cable tv) with Hans. The films were made in the same year.
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Post by lynette on Feb 4, 2009 5:58:34 GMT 8
"Stella" was premiered 9 November 1996 (when he was 21) at the London Film Festival, but it was filmed earlier. Hans was born in 1975, the shooting in 1995/96, so 20! He was 22 on "Les Mis". When films are premiered, when they are released "domestically" and when/if they go "wide" or to DVD can squew the audience's perception of where their making actually fit into history. Post-production (re-shoots, ADR), distribution, and final "release" can take on a life and history of its own, while the cast are moving forward into other projects. Hopefully. FOR example, Kelly, who played "Stella", was noticed in the US for her role in "Trainspotting" long before anyone saw her work in "Stella". There was in fact 3 years between seeing her in the theater with Ewan McGregor and seeing her on HBO (cable tv) with Hans. The films were made in the same year. Thank you for the explanation. It is clear that you have an overview.  |
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Post by Gg on Feb 8, 2009 2:19:23 GMT 8
It's a pretty amazing performance, particularly for 20!
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Post by lynette on Feb 8, 2009 5:21:15 GMT 8
It's a pretty amazing performance, particularly for 20! Of course! Hans is a great actor.  |
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Post by vicky86 on Feb 8, 2009 7:48:05 GMT 8
I loved him in this i think its one of his greatest performances.  x |
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Post by Virgil Reality on Feb 8, 2009 13:19:49 GMT 8
Agreed.
For those who find the accents difficult to follow, there's a French release which has English subtitles, occasionally available on ebay.
For ages, after Eddie says, "I thought you were my girl", I thought Stella said, "I'm the Woody's girl." (It's actually, "I'm nobody's girl") Of course I had no idea who Woody was!
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Post by Gg on Feb 9, 2009 0:11:18 GMT 8
that misinterpretation has the making of a very dirty joke... that would actually make sense in the context. but let's not go there.
My misread was when Legal says "I don't like you foundling" in BODYWORK -- thought he said "I don't like you finally"
subtitles, good for everyone!
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Post by Laura2102 on Mar 17, 2009 19:08:52 GMT 8
I rewatched Stella last night, well I had it on while I was busy doing other things. But the other things were ignored when Hans came on the screen, I don't know what it is about this character in particular, but I get so drawn in by him. I know he spends a fair amount of the film flat out asleep, but there's just something gentle about Eddie that makes him vulnerable. I remembered why I wasn't keen on the ending the first time I watched it as well, it just doesn't really complete the film for me. She'd worked so hard to get to where she was and then she just blew it all?
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Post by Gg on Mar 18, 2009 1:20:39 GMT 8
I think STELLA's story really is a cautionary tale -- I mean I think we are really to see Stella, and Eddie to some extent, as victims -- but STELLA unlike her not quite evolved boyfriend (can I say that without her yelling at me -- "I'm not your girl! I'm nobodie's girl!!!") Stella wants to be a survivor. The fact that though she does succeed in so many of the steps of survival, a little endulgence in (occasssionally glorious) revenge, and ultimately is self-sufficient, she is nontheless stranged by her unwitting co-dependence to Eddie, causing one simple 1/2 hour of return to service (I always want her to tell Eddie to do the service himself-- that's a Shakespearan actor in the role BTW -- saw him as "weird sister" at the Southward Globe's MACBETH) is just enough to completely demoralize her efforts, and send her of the suicidal abyss -- shooting her into a purgatorial post-mortal stint taking on her abusive father's stand up gig. "Picture the scene"... however uncomfortable that may be for those of us who want to believe in happily ever after! It's not a cautionary tale if is all ends up okay. A little nihilistic, I give you.
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Post by brooke on Apr 18, 2009 3:01:18 GMT 8
I lost count how many times I watched this film. A sheer necessity until I understood Stella's dialog, the same problem many who posted here in this thread had apparently. French subtitles were a great help. I even bought an old VHS tape for 1 € at a Video Shop sell out on ebay only for the German dubbed soundtrack. Not only Stella but also the Andy Serkis character was sometimes unintelligible for me: for example at first I had no idea what the scene in the cafe was about, where he upset the girls (the scene of Eddie's first appearance). I couldn't foresee how much I would come to love this film, despite the bleak subject and the depressing outcome. Every time the film ends, I ask myself, what happens, when Eddie wakes up, how will he cope. Laura wrote I don't know how Coky Giedroyc did it, most likely it is due to Hans' and Kelly Macdonald's performance: you can't but feel empathy with Stella and Eddie. It's a pretty amazing performance, particularly for 20! I loved him in this i think its one of his greatest performances. x That's my opinion too. His embodiment of Eddie is so authentic, even in the little details: bitten fingernails, very dirty feet etc... In a review a critic wrote about Eddie:"...played with feline grace by Hans Matheson." STELLA is definitely one of my favorite Hans - movies. |
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Post by lynette on Apr 18, 2009 19:34:12 GMT 8
I lost count how many times I watched this film. A sheer necessity until I understood Stella's dialog, the same problem many who posted here in this thread had apparently. French subtitles were a great help. I even bought an old VHS tape for 1 € at a Video Shop sell out on ebay only for the German dubbed soundtrack. Not only Stella but also the Andy Serkis character was sometimes unintelligible for me: for example at first I had no idea what the scene in the cafe was about, where he upset the girls (the scene of Eddie's first appearance). I couldn't foresee how much I would come to love this film, despite the bleak subject and the depressing outcome. Every time the film ends, I ask myself, what happens, when Eddie wakes up, how will he cope. Laura wrote I don't know how Coky Giedroyc did it, most likely it is due to Hans' and Kelly Macdonald's performance: you can't but emphasize with Stella and Eddie. I loved him in this i think its one of his greatest performances. x That's my opinion too. His embodiment of Eddie is so authentic, even in the little details: bitten fingernails, very dirty feet etc... In a review a critic wrote about Eddie:"...played with feline grace by Hans Matheson." STELLA is definitely one of my favorite Hans - movies. I never saw this movie, but according to your responses must be excellent. I 'm sorry, that in our country has never been ..  Hans looks at this picture quite well. Is just too skinny. ;D |
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Post by Laura2102 on Apr 27, 2009 17:40:27 GMT 8
I agree Brooke, the way he plays Eddie is just incredible. I love the scene in which he calls Stella a 'Scotch git' I think it is, the way he says it is just priceless.
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Post by brooke on May 2, 2009 4:20:51 GMT 8
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