zita
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If I was in pain I know you'd sing me soothing songs...
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Post by zita on Apr 23, 2008 17:10:06 GMT 8
Well, I don't think so, and I wouldn' t even dare to report -for I think it was the reason of my previous blocking -I must be a good girl in advance... Regarding his secret wife: if there's a revolver around, it must be fired sometime... - I mean - before blocking me again - there must be some importance of her in the storyline!
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Post by Gg on Apr 25, 2008 4:51:46 GMT 8
Showtime has just announced that "The Tudors" will have a 3rd season in 2009!
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zita
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If I was in pain I know you'd sing me soothing songs...
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Post by zita on Apr 25, 2008 22:13:22 GMT 8
Yes!!! And hopefully our favourite archbishop will also be there!
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Post by Virgil Reality on Apr 26, 2008 8:24:14 GMT 8
Hi there strangers! I'll have caps from Episodes 3 and 4 up later today, hopefully, thanks to Gg as usual. The caps are now posted but warning - the caps of Cranmer baptising the Princess Elizabeth are awefully sweet and likely to play on the hormones The folks at IMDb were somewhat grossed out that Cranmer and his wife would kiss before she has brushed her teeth ;D but there follows this interesting snippet from little miss sunnydale All I did was laugh, since what came to mind is "Mail Order Bride." Does anyone know if that actually happened -- did he smuggle her into the country in a box? It sounds just insane enough for me to actually believe it.
Cranmer was married twice but his longest marriage was to his second wife, Margaret (who he met and married in Germany in 1532).
Henry's opinion on clerical marriages went one way than another (although in principal he always seemed to oppose it). When Cranmer first married he may have done so out of principal, or perhaps love, or perhaps because he felt Henry would accept it (or a mixture of all three). Nevertheless Henry was not fond of this and Cranmer sent his wife back to Germany in the early 1540s. The comical Elizabethan tale was that Cranmer kept his wife in a box and took her out when it was fashionable and safe to do so and put her away when it was too dangerous. Of course he didn’t actually put her in a box (that's too silly), but the story was symbolic and highlights Cranmer's fear for the safety of his wife and his reputation. It also highlights Henry’s contrary nature
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Post by Gg on Apr 27, 2008 2:04:45 GMT 8
It does seem that alluding to fact but briefly and perhaps off chronilogically, where it can be found an interesting place, is a pretty common device for historical drama. Storyline being the first priority and historical fact being used where it best fits, is found most dramatic or logical based on the sacrificies that will always be made outside of "real time". But that "box" scene was sweet and silly however much it may have raised your "oh come on" instinct to get all skeptical about it.
Fear there won't be much more sweetness and light for Cramner in these episodes to come.
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zita
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If I was in pain I know you'd sing me soothing songs...
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Post by zita on Apr 27, 2008 18:00:33 GMT 8
As I remember Cranmer was the one to convince Henry of beheading Anne Boleyn. Is it possible to do in a sweet way?!
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Post by Virgil Reality on Apr 30, 2008 22:05:39 GMT 8
Any sign of Cranmer in episode five?
It does seem that his appearances are fleeting and basically used to advance the plot. Of course it's not about him but it is a bit disappointing how much in the background he seems to be. We haven't exactly been overrun with new fans.
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Post by Gg on May 2, 2008 0:55:05 GMT 8
This week was all about the martyrdom of Thomas Moore and he shared the screen time with the now panicked Anne.
Cramner made an appearance early on, but no real growth. They must have brought in the wife for a reason though!
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Post by Virgil Reality on May 7, 2008 21:24:59 GMT 8
I think I read somewhere that the wife issue is brought up again in an upcoming episode (six or seven) Typically, I can't find it again to reference it. Thanks to the kindness of the Mafia, I've now been able to watch the first four episodes. I'm finidng it to be more interesting than I feared from what I had read and seen of the first series. James Frain and Jeremy Northam in particular are doing an excellent job and the young girl who's playing Princess Mary looks to be good too. Cranmer's not getting all that much screen time nor the chance to develop character or be in any way a character whose part you would take, that sweet reunion aside. He went from being a mealy mouthed toady to a shouty stroppy baddie in about one scene. Must say, after seeing the scene where they demand that More swears the oath, I was quivering in my boots. Wasn't that crazy about the Latin scenes - a bit too over enunciated for my tastes. He just doesn't sound like a priest. Sorry hans, but see, I can be objective
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Post by Gg on May 9, 2008 2:01:40 GMT 8
ep. 16 has Cramner marrying George (in Latin) to a poor unfortunate, openly flirting with Smeaton and generally misbehaving during the celebration. But earlier in the episode, Cromwell and Cramner have an interesting "good cop/bad cop" scene -- Cramner wanting to focus on the "good news" and Cromwell wants to encourage neighbor to rat out neighbor -- and introducing the printing press as a invention of change.
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Post by dakota on May 10, 2008 3:42:50 GMT 8
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zita
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Post by zita on May 10, 2008 6:04:25 GMT 8
Hey - Newbie on board!
Welcome Dakota, and thanks for this list of videos! Don't be shy, this is the No1 place for Hans-fans - let us know more about you !
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Post by dakota on May 10, 2008 22:14:30 GMT 8
Hi Zita !! thank you very much for the welcome. I love hans , I think is one of the most talented actors, my favorite movies of him are Nero and Zhivago, he is amazing.
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Post by babikaaa on May 12, 2008 22:35:44 GMT 8
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Post by Gg on May 13, 2008 7:27:23 GMT 8
Hey Babi!
SPOILERS!!!
Lat night's episode marked the return on the "wife in the box"
She and Cramner had dinner with Cromwell, she spoke her radical views, to a bit of the dismay of the temperant Cramner, and then, she got in her box and they left -- I am serious as a heart attack --- she travels by wooden box. First time we see Cramner ala casual...
Cramner presented the King with the accounts of the churches of England in his other scene.
Two scenes an episode seem about the norm.
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