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Post by Virgil Reality on Jan 14, 2007 9:29:21 GMT 8
Andrew Davies on Doctor Zhivago in the Daily Mail 13th January. The final paragraph makes me wonder My favourite scene in the film? Out of many, I would have to pick the ending, which features a little boy with a wonderfully expressive face, who appears in the opening as little Yury, and reappears in the last scene as Lara's little boy - Yury's child.
If he doesn't bring tears to your eyes, then I'll refund you the price of the DVD.
Ah, just remembered - you're getting it free, aren't you? You lucky people. Might this mean it's getting an airing on TV?
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Post by liz on Jan 14, 2007 18:47:15 GMT 8
Probably does! That's the only interpretation that makes sense to me at least...
He's right by the way; that little boy and the ending scene totally bring tears to your eyes. I cried my eyes out first time I saw Doctor Zhivago. Ahhh, good old times. Second Hans-film I ever saw, must have been three years ago.
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Post by Virgil Reality on Jan 15, 2007 9:25:58 GMT 8
Actually, the Daily Mail is giving Part 1 free with next Sunday's edition. Hopefully you get Part 2 the following week. BTW the Daily Mail article has a comments section....
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Post by Jonathan on Jan 15, 2007 15:53:10 GMT 8
Thanks, Virgil
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Post by HeathenMaiden on Jan 19, 2007 11:34:23 GMT 8
Excellent Daily Mail article! Thank you so much for posting!
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Post by Virgil Reality on Jan 25, 2007 16:10:36 GMT 8
I was wondering whether Part 2 comes with this week's issue.
Now that Keira Knightley is suing The Mail - perhaps not.
IMO the second half is much better treatment of Yury - up till them its too much emphasis on lara and for some reason, that wasn't as satisfactory for me.
Maybe it's just that I prefer scruffy Hans!
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Post by starkiller on Jan 25, 2007 21:27:52 GMT 8
Scruffy-Hans is love.
Why is Keira Knightly suing The Mail?
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Post by liz on Jan 25, 2007 21:57:35 GMT 8
Because the mail is blaming her for the death of a young girl who died of an eating disorder.
I totally understand why she's suing them!
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Post by Virgil Reality on Jan 25, 2007 22:22:05 GMT 8
The mother of the girl who died was blaming Keira and other superthin actresses for setting a bad example to girls like her daughter.
The Daily Mail said/implied that Keira had lied about not having an eating disorder when there was a bit of a fuss after her appearance at the London Pirates premiere was cause for concern. And then just recently pics of her in a bikini and still very thin caused the DM to imply cos she's still thin she has a) an ED and b) is lying about it.
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Post by Gg on Jan 25, 2007 23:50:29 GMT 8
can I rant a moment??? If we are going to play the blame game here -- Keira was looking just enviably fine until last year at the Golden Globes (the one where she wore the ivory gown) and F&*(^&&ing Isaac Mizraserible asked her what she ate for breakfast (implying she surely couldn't have eaten that day -- being so nervous about her nomination) and she answered, quite cheerfully 'oh, nono, I had a bagel and cream cheese for breakfast and chicken and rice for lunch" and he said -- ON NATIONAL TELEVISION DURING A ONE ON ONE INTERVIEW WITH A NOMINEE 'NO! NO! You can't eat CARBS if you want to keep slipping into those gowns of yours' -- to a young, tall, skinny girl on a night where she was on display FOR THE WORLD for one of the first times as a serious actress, and GEE maybe was a little vulnerable, and this ASS says this S*(&&%%T to her and the beam falls from her smile and she ages 10 years with worry, while on camera, makes a slightly forced pleasant goodbye and next time I see her she's lost a stone. I say we should blame Issac
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Post by Gg on Jan 25, 2007 23:57:40 GMT 8
and if the poor girl has an eating disorder she deserves concern, support, and respectful PRIVACY -- why not sue the photographer for selling the picture of the anorexic in her bathing suit. Was she the one who put that out there?
People can lose a lot of weight from emotional and personal stress (caused by, oh I don't know -- constant scrutiny) without it being about puking in the bathroom after meals...
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Post by liz on Jan 26, 2007 1:32:15 GMT 8
I honesty don't think she has an eating disorder - at least not from the beginning when the press started whining about it. She's always been thin, she's just naturally thin, good genes, good luck, good exercise and good food is all it takes for some people. I must say I haven't seen the bikini pics so I can't honestly say that I know for sure she's OK now. But for a long time I am very sure she did not have an eating disorder.
I'm 19, I've had three friends with eating disorders, I recognize some of the symptoms by now I think - unhealthy complexion and no muscle are major symptoms, and Keira always had a healthy complexion and she had muscles. I think people nowadays are just irrational about the whole thin/fat thing. It's never just okay, is it? I think fingers should be pointed at society and the media in general, because those are the causes that celebrities and young girls alike are so obsessive about losing weight - they actually buy it.
I just feel that it's an insult, wether she has an eating disorder or not, to put Keira on the Nicole Richie and Lindsay Lohan list. Because Keira is obviously a lot more down-to-earth than those girls. Keira has class compared to them, if you ask me, but that's just my opinion. And I feel that if Keira has a problem, she'll find her way eventually. But I think nowadays we should be grateful for girls like Keira in the acting industry, because dispite her figure she is one of the few actresses her age who seems normal, smart and classy. She doesn't wash her dirty laundry in public. Los Angeles is stuffed with young girls who are too skinny, but I'd rather have them be like Keira than like most of the others. I appreciate the statement she makes regardless of her weight, and that's why I don't feel it's necessary to discuss her weight as much as the press does.
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Post by starkiller on Jan 26, 2007 2:30:08 GMT 8
The mother of the girl who died was blaming Keira and other superthin actresses for setting a bad example to girls like her daughter. The Daily Mail said/implied that Keira had lied about not having an eating disorder when there was a bit of a fuss after her appearance at the London Pirates premiere was cause for concern. And then just recently pics of her in a bikini and still very thin caused the DM to imply cos she's still thin she has a) an ED and b) is lying about it. Either way, girl needs to eat a bit more or lay off the exercise routine or the f*gs or whatever. Oh for heavens sake. Point the first: If Keira or any other famous person has any sort of eating disorder, then that's their affair and they and their families should be the ones dealing with that. Point the second: Keira via the Mail did not hold a gun to the girl's head and force her to kill herself. Blaming someone else for something like that is unreasonable. And sure, grief makes people do strange things, but if this is the case (and considering it's the Daily Mail, I'm a bit handwavey here,) then the mother of the girl who killed herself should perhaps look at how well she supported her daughter. The media really bug me sometimes. I'm all for being informed, but really. Lord. BAH.
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Post by liz on Jan 26, 2007 4:21:20 GMT 8
I totally agree.
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Post by Virgil Reality on Jan 26, 2007 8:07:47 GMT 8
The hypocrisy is that its the media that go out of their way to run all these pictures that are the real issue. If they didn't publish all these paparazzi snaps so readily, the young girls wouldn't have all this so called influence in the first place. And I hate the way the media expolit grieving people who often make statements that are extreme. Why wouldn't they? _Err topic Doctor Zhivago. I've just added a few things to The Zhivago Galleries - nothing major but a bit of housekeeping doesn't go astray and also procrastinates actual housekeeping.
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