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Post by Gg on May 27, 2009 12:05:38 GMT 8
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scarredsoul
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Post by scarredsoul on May 27, 2009 14:09:02 GMT 8
They're sort of like that in the US too, if you're 29 and you've got wrinkles suddenly you have to go through all of this and get fixed up...I'm burned and have scars on my face and I've had so many people first of all ask me how old I am, then when I tell them it's an automatic - Oh my god you're OLD you've got WRINKLES....umm...no...they're scars.
And I've earned my laugh lines, what few I have. I intend to keep them....the way I figure it, actors (hans included) have earned the marks they wear on their faces not so much through years but because of what they learned and how they've grown....when we're young we've got clean slates and as we get older there's scars, wrinkles and other things that change the face of the slate, to show what we've been through....
Getting botox and stuff like that to look younger just erases the slate again and to me anyhow, it makes it like you never experienced anything, you didn't learn and you didn't grow...you were there but you didn't get anything out of it....
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Post by lynette on May 27, 2009 19:31:18 GMT 8
I read once, that English is the worst in terms of wrinkles around the face. Very hard language for facial muscles.
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Post by scarredsoul on May 28, 2009 5:04:21 GMT 8
I've seen the pictures from it but I've yet to actually watch the movie, I can guarentee a lot of these are not ones my girlfriend is going to be interested in, though the plus side of her going to school and me not is I can settle back with the movies she doesn't like and spend all day in my own little world....
By the way...the pictures later on in that file...mish....yikes. That was a bit of an eye-full..heheh...I actually want to see the movie though
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Post by Virgil Reality on May 28, 2009 7:44:54 GMT 8
Both those scenes are very brief - and fit in well in the context of the film. They are not gratuitous and they are not conducive to 'perving' if that's your fear. I actually think they are powerful scees in understanding Jake and his problems.
Thanks for getting this thread back on topic.
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Post by scarredsoul on May 28, 2009 10:44:44 GMT 8
Not so much that I feel pervy but it was sort of a mmf moment and move on...
You're welcome?
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Post by Laura2102 on May 29, 2009 17:01:54 GMT 8
I have to say that before I saw it and I heard about those scenes I was a bit like 'Hmmm' but after watching it, the scenes really do add to the show and they are needed but they're not long enough to take over it.
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Post by scarredsoul on May 30, 2009 2:48:38 GMT 8
It seems like they would and it also looks like they're gathered into one area...considering what I've read about Jake and how his personality is, and what kind of character he is in general...helps give an insite into him I guess. Either way, I'm usually not one to shy away from the occassional full frontal of either gender
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Post by cat on Jun 1, 2009 4:05:45 GMT 8
Thanks to the lovely Brooke, I have now had the chance to see this and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It has now become one of my favourites (alongside Doctor Zhivago).
CN was gritty, funny and insightful as too what people with addictions go through in order to recuperate!
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Post by Laura2102 on Jun 1, 2009 7:57:52 GMT 8
It's great that you've had the chance to see it Cat, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
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Post by scarredsoul on Jun 1, 2009 14:11:01 GMT 8
I've always had a draw to things like that...don't ask me why but addictions are interesting to me...I always wind up feeling bad for the person trying to recover though...I have this horrible desire to want to hug
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Post by lynette on Jun 1, 2009 19:50:46 GMT 8
This film was very interesting for me. I can compare with reality, because I had similar problems in the past and I was also in a treatment center. I there met with people who have major problems with alcohol, drugs or other psychological problems.
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Post by Gg on Jun 2, 2009 1:38:41 GMT 8
Jeno and I both spent time working with addicts. You do want to hug them, and if they relapse you just want to cry, and then you meet their kids and you want to shake them silly. And then you want to hug them again. But I found psychiatric case work, albeit an unorthodox day job, but absolutely fascinating. Like putting together the puzzle pieces of someone's character. Fulfilling as well, when you know you are making a positive change in person's life (as all you mothers and teachers know) though WOW when you burnout it is like death. Such exhaustion when you are trying to do damage control for what feels like insurmountable problems. I often wished that there was some panacea I could just hand to them,.... But of course there is none. I can understand Stella's absolute despondency by the end.
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Post by cat on Jun 2, 2009 3:26:18 GMT 8
Thanks Laura! But I also had a personal reason as to why I particularly wanted to see this, years ago I had a friend who suffered from drug addiction, and no matter how hard people with this addiction try, they will always relapse. I will always wonder, had my friend gone into a rehab centre, she might have survived and got through her addiction with the help and support that could have potentially been available to her. Sadly, the past cannot be changed on what ifs.
At first I wondered if I was in some way responsible for her dying, in that maybe there was more that I could have done to prevent it. I still carry the guilt of it and it never really goes away!
I sometimes wonder if she was lucky that she died. Because in doing so, her addiction was never going to get any worse. In dying, that was her cut off point. In watching what happened to her has made me so anti-drugs. I couldn't and wouldn't be the sort of person to watch somebody else destroy themselves with all that crap!
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Post by Gg on Jun 2, 2009 11:18:51 GMT 8
What thread am I on?! Hello! Wrap up a CN post with a Stella reference. I've lost my mind.
But the good news is... the stats on recovery could be worse. When I was working they fell around 1/3 fully functioning recovered, 1/3 who die later in life of long term effects of prolonged using, and 1/3 who overdose. I've lost friends as well as former clients to overdose, but there are so many more who have been able to eventually conquer it. I also firmly believe that with the support and faith (in no specific religious sense) that addicts can recover without hitting "rock bottom". There is hope, and I think CN (see I know where I am this time, right) could be life saving with the right set of eyes on it.
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