brooke
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Post by brooke on May 2, 2009 22:52:16 GMT 8
This remembers me of a Gerard Butler DVD (One More Kiss)I had for ages and I've seen only 5 deleted scenes until I read somewhere, there were 6 more! I just didn't found them, simply overlooked them.
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Post by Jonathan on May 3, 2009 3:50:21 GMT 8
I have seen Tube Tales only on YouTube  I have not seen the extras yet |
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brooke
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Post by brooke on May 3, 2009 4:09:07 GMT 8
That's a pity. I too have seen TT first on YouTube, but when I learned about the interviews there was no stopping me from getting the DVD  |
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Post by lynette on May 3, 2009 4:28:35 GMT 8
I am on it as well as Jonathan ...
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scarredsoul
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Post by scarredsoul on May 19, 2009 12:00:03 GMT 8
I am catching this at a very odd time to be reflecting on "Steal Away". It's one of my favorites, I must admit. I'm sitting here in between pieces a bit like "Tube Tales" -- independent films, series of shorts, not afraid to be spiritual/quasi-religious/message-driven. I think it's fair to say Steal Away (and much of Tube Tales) would fit very much into that context. Life and death and the consequences of being part of them, witnessing them, embracing the journey,... or not. Seems to me, the medium is so beautifully used to NOT allow anyone to pretend that the psychology of the audience doesn't affect interpretation. SO to try to say explicitly -- "I have the authoritative opinion on Steal Away" -- is kind of ironic. But does make for interestng discussion. But to meas SA begins, we are very much in that "True Romance" kind of experience, as Hans mentions, where they are really living out their fantasies in life, and why not, and without moral apology of any kind. Boy (Michael) sacrifices himself for the girls escape and we are immediately, knowing or otherwise, part of a purgatory experience -- or at the very least, a journey to Elysian fields (the end of the line -- C0ckfosters, perhaps). SO when the money becomes obsolete and the anti-theft dye covers them (blanketing them with their sin, so to speak) with scarlet (reminds me a bit of the Scarlett Letter really) it is as if they are marked... but in the moment of redemption on the train, when the boy washes the wounded washers feet, as the gospels are read, the lights go out and that single act has washed them of their sins...and the dye. But to them, the money is still obsolete. And in doing so, allows the boy to get his reunion once he arrives at the fields -- and we (and the girl) realize his sacrifice, and ultimately his redemption, has brought him to the end of the perverbial journey, rather than sending him back to try to get it right (as Karma would have it), as with other of the passengers -- and quite a cast of passagers it is. SO themes of sacrifice, redemption, the irony of right and wrong and "morality", and in the end, a life lived, not without "sin", but paradoxically with an ultimate sense of integrity, some ultimate "goodness" (though "good" isn't the right word, maybe "fullness") brings joy...unity. that's what I get from it at least. Wow. Can I just say first of all you actually explained what the hell was going on right there? I've only seen it on youtube and for the life of me when I've watched it I cannot figure out what's going on. I know he died, I figured that out the first time I'd seen it, right at the very beginning when he was shot but...at the same time part of me..I couldn't figure out what the point of the preacher and the boy washing everyone's feet was exactly for. It was actually nice to see Michel drop to his knees to wash the boy's feet instead of the other way around but I cannot quite grasp why....forgive me for being American and the most unreligious person you will ever meet...what's the washing of the feet signify? |
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Post by lynette on May 19, 2009 17:46:26 GMT 8
What can wash the feet mean? I do not know, maybe some redemption?  |
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brooke
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Post by brooke on May 21, 2009 1:31:56 GMT 8
Here you can read, what The Washing of Feet means in Christian culture. I always thought, that the cross, dangling from the rear view mirror of the Driver's car, had some significance, too. It can be seen in various shots and is certainly no coincidence. 
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Post by lynette on May 21, 2009 2:48:14 GMT 8
Thanks, Brooke.  |
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Post by Gg on May 21, 2009 4:40:52 GMT 8
The symbol of washing feet, I generally assumed, alludes to the scene (because everything is either music or film to me) from the books of Matthew/Mark, Luke and John, when Jesus comes to the home of Mary and Martha (Lazarus' sisters -- Lazarus being Jesus' friend, who rose from the dead). Mary kneels down and washes Jesus' feet with expensive oils-- a sign of respect and hosptality, but also a preparation for burial. Mary kneeling at Jesus' feet it also a sign of respect - as you would give a master teacher. The scene is showing us is that Jesus is being nurtured in preparation for his death/sacrifice. The practice has come into, uh practice, since, obviously. I wish I could get points for this, but I'm ex-Catholic, hopelessly fallen, and to tell the truth, I only know this story so well because I got to sing "Everything's Alright" (of the same allusive scene) in JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR, aka the BIG God musical, in stock theater... But I think in TUBE TALES when Michael kneels at the feet of the foot washer, turns that around-the dead is the annointer, it is as you say, an act of humility and nurturing, that redeems him. The biblical symbolism is pretty thick in Steal Away, but I like that they take it to a very spiritual place that is not preachy and detached and legalistic, but well beyond the spiritual limitations of Christianity. (No offense there anybody). I think you hit it right on the head Lynette -- redemption. I can talk....sorry  |
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Post by lynette on May 21, 2009 5:58:24 GMT 8
The symbol of washing feet, I generally assumed, alludes to the scene (because everything is either music or film to me) from the books of Matthew/Mark, Luke and John, when Jesus comes to the home of Mary and Martha (Lazarus' sisters -- Lazarus being Jesus' friend, who rose from the dead). Mary kneels down and washes Jesus' feet with expensive oils-- a sign of respect and hosptality, but also a preparation for burial. Mary kneeling at Jesus' feet it also a sign of respect - as you would give a master teacher. The scene is showing us is that Jesus is being nurtured in preparation for his death/sacrifice. The practice has come into, uh practice, since, obviously. I wish I could get points for this, but I'm ex-Catholic, hopelessly fallen, and to tell the truth, I only know this story so well because I got to sing "Everything's Alright" (of the same allusive scene) in JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR, aka the BIG God musical, in stock theater... But I think in TUBE TALES when Michael kneels at the feet of the foot washer, turns that around-the dead is the annointer, it is as you say, an act of humility and nurturing, that redeems him. The biblical symbolism is pretty thick in Steal Away, but I like that they take it to a very spiritual place that is not preachy and detached and legalistic, but well beyond the spiritual limitations of Christianity. (No offense there anybody). I think you hit it right on the head Lynette -- redemption. I can talk....sorry This is very nice as described, Gg. I know that the biblical story, but did not link me directly... |
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scarredsoul
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Post by scarredsoul on May 21, 2009 11:18:06 GMT 8
Mentioning the 'preparation for death' thing now actually explains quite a lot...considering...but it doesn't make much sense unless it's trading back to Michael showing the young boy the respect that the one that hit him took from him....I dunno...
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brooke
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Post by brooke on May 21, 2009 15:30:47 GMT 8
Ah, the "Hitting"!
The very first time I've seen TT/SA on the little screen on You Tube, I thought the drunkard did it on purpose. But after repeated viewing I'm convinced it's accidental. As the train departs, the drunk looses his balance. He says something like, "I didn't mean it". His affront consists in demanding to get his feet washed and offering money instead of asking the boy's forgiveness.
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Post by Laura2102 on May 30, 2009 16:36:01 GMT 8
I too agree it was an accident, and the fact that he offered money just showed I suppose the type of society we live in at the moment. I'm not saying that everyone is like that by any means but I do know that in this country at least, money is the answer to a lot of things, or people try to use it as a way out.
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scarredsoul
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Post by scarredsoul on May 30, 2009 16:51:03 GMT 8
I don't think it was, I rewatched it and he seems a little sorry for hitting him but at the same time he doesn't seem to care one way or the other, he's too drunk to care and it does actually say quite a bit about the state of things...money makes it all go away
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