Post by Gg on Oct 18, 2007 23:29:03 GMT 8
Be careful there -- relying on press interviews for the truth of his perceptions is putting your faith in an unreliable source. Whether or not he is quoted as he intented is completely out of his control. That hurt is coming from the media -- who's job is to sell provocative stories. What his actual correspondance says is the only thing you can reliably depend on. I mean think about it -- how happy would his publicist be if he deliberately allowed himself to be quoted in a way that would estrange some of the people who brought them money?
But I think, and this is purely speculation, that just because someone wants to perform for a living, they are not necessarily prepared for their own reactions to the byproducts of fame, e.g. being responsible to a fanbase. Being famous, kind of abstractly, like in the case of say Robert DeNiro, is different than having a bunch of girls gushing about you and talking about your love-life on the internet. What might seem groovy and helpful and encouraging when you're 25 might start to rub you wrong when you want to begin to think of yourself as a serious performer, a serious person. People grow -- sometimes growth is painful for everyone. How many of us were a pain in the a$$ to our parents as teenagers, just trying to liberate ourselves from childhood. The things our mothers did to dote on us as kids begins to feel like chains around our necks at 13. Actors are just as human as the rest of us. Humans are strange, but I am sure, internally, each of thinks we make perfect sense.
Truth is, it is generous when an celebrity participates with his fanbase. It is not actually the job, though creating "buzz" is certainly one way to generate work. I really do appreciate the disappointment the webmistress must be feeling after working for years on something she thought was appreciated by the performer it was dedicated to. Course I've never put in any particular work, and don't really have the resources to. Virg may feel differently, but she'll be too busy galavantly for a while longer to reply. But if I was ever asked to bow out of online discussion by the discussed, I would try to do so as gracefully and non-judgmentally as I could. I have no idea how it would feel if I was the subject of such a discussion.
But really, just because someone is talented and beautiful -- doesn't mean they are "nice". We could totally get into the nature of ambition,... but maybe that could be a discussion for another day because I've got to get to the airport... see if I was famous I couldn't say that because someone would break into my place and steal my baby pictures or something.
But I think, and this is purely speculation, that just because someone wants to perform for a living, they are not necessarily prepared for their own reactions to the byproducts of fame, e.g. being responsible to a fanbase. Being famous, kind of abstractly, like in the case of say Robert DeNiro, is different than having a bunch of girls gushing about you and talking about your love-life on the internet. What might seem groovy and helpful and encouraging when you're 25 might start to rub you wrong when you want to begin to think of yourself as a serious performer, a serious person. People grow -- sometimes growth is painful for everyone. How many of us were a pain in the a$$ to our parents as teenagers, just trying to liberate ourselves from childhood. The things our mothers did to dote on us as kids begins to feel like chains around our necks at 13. Actors are just as human as the rest of us. Humans are strange, but I am sure, internally, each of thinks we make perfect sense.
Truth is, it is generous when an celebrity participates with his fanbase. It is not actually the job, though creating "buzz" is certainly one way to generate work. I really do appreciate the disappointment the webmistress must be feeling after working for years on something she thought was appreciated by the performer it was dedicated to. Course I've never put in any particular work, and don't really have the resources to. Virg may feel differently, but she'll be too busy galavantly for a while longer to reply. But if I was ever asked to bow out of online discussion by the discussed, I would try to do so as gracefully and non-judgmentally as I could. I have no idea how it would feel if I was the subject of such a discussion.
But really, just because someone is talented and beautiful -- doesn't mean they are "nice". We could totally get into the nature of ambition,... but maybe that could be a discussion for another day because I've got to get to the airport... see if I was famous I couldn't say that because someone would break into my place and steal my baby pictures or something.
it can be quite scary. I understand that Ioan and Alice truly came from a place where they were genuinely scared and really thought us to be the cause of the fear. Also it's true that performers aren't guarenteed to be nice. Who knows what happened really? Nobody but the webmistress. All I know is if I were her, I would be heartbroken, too. It's the one person you look up to and first they praise you to the heavens and give you money for the promotion you're giving them, the next moment they come down on you for something you didn't do.
??) but I think the webmistress should take heart in the fact that he didn't accuse HER of the anger he describes. Other than that though, I can understand what he is saying. He is an adult, and now an accomplished actor, and some of these forumns are filled with manipulations and arguing and anger and jealousy and some weird possessiveness and it IS sad; both for the objectified performer and for the person who is turning a human into an idol who can not be anything but disappointed and heartbroken, in the end. Now I haven't ever been on the website you're defending, but he may have been speaking more generally. And I can understand his hestitating, and for good reason. If he was interviewed for, let's say an hour or two, and they distilled this paragraph from comments made in the course of that entire HOUR -- that is really very little time given to the subject. I would bet he spent the majority of the time talking about his next film, his career, the point of the interview afterall being self-promotion. Just because it is presented as a paragraph doesn't mean it was spoken as such.
