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Post by lynette on May 3, 2011 18:28:14 GMT 8
I think that Kate had a wedding dress too common. For me, the royal wedding of y. 1981 was better.
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Post by cat on May 4, 2011 0:40:59 GMT 8
I think that Kate had a wedding dress too common. Are you serious??? There was nothing common about Kate's wedding dress. It was elegant and classy.
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Post by caz on May 4, 2011 3:29:53 GMT 8
I think that Kate had a wedding dress too common. Are you serious??? There was nothing common about Kate's wedding dress. It was elegant and classy. Well said Cat! I second that, Common my A**e!
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Post by Gg on May 4, 2011 3:53:38 GMT 8
I would call it classic, in the best sense.
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Post by lynette on May 4, 2011 16:18:07 GMT 8
I do not know, but I hear all around me, that her dress was too common and nothing interesting. Even most people agree that the current rental of wedding dress would have been better. I say, that her wedding dress are too simple for royal wedding. It was a little princely.
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Post by Gg on May 4, 2011 22:20:54 GMT 8
Wow,... that's not the word amongst the fashionistas here in the US (where the Alexander McQueen house is treated with respect) or in the British, Italian, or French Press that I've read. A RENTAL?!! (That's just silly). Lynette my friend, there are a lot of Brits on this board who are sitting squarely in the afterglow of national pride. You take your life into your hands!!!
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Post by lynette on May 5, 2011 16:36:24 GMT 8
Wow,... that's not the word amongst the fashionistas here in the US (where the Alexander McQueen house is treated with respect) or in the British, Italian, or French Press that I've read. A RENTAL?!! (That's just silly). Lynette my friend, there are a lot of Brits on this board who are sitting squarely in the afterglow of national pride. You take your life into your hands!!! I have nothing against the British culture. I expressed my opinion which is subjective. It does not show necessarily cultural intolerance. I am very tolerant of other peoples and races, sometimes to my detriment, unfortunately ... Written expression can be confusing, this place is only virtual.
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Post by cat on May 6, 2011 1:17:33 GMT 8
I have nothing against the British culture. I expressed my opinion which is subjective. It does not show necessarily cultural intolerance. I am very tolerant of other peoples and races, sometimes to my detriment, unfortunately ... Written expression can be confusing, this place is only virtual. Expressing your opinion is fine Lynette, as long as your opinion isn't seen as being horrible in anyway. Your remarks about Kate's wedding dress being common, or that perhaps she should have had a rental wedding dress, wasn't the nicest thing to say. That wedding was for us Brits, a very special day, so for you to say things like that was really unnecessary!
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Post by lynette on May 6, 2011 18:00:21 GMT 8
I have nothing against the British culture. I expressed my opinion which is subjective. It does not show necessarily cultural intolerance. I am very tolerant of other peoples and races, sometimes to my detriment, unfortunately ... Written expression can be confusing, this place is only virtual. Expressing your opinion is fine Lynette, as long as your opinion isn't seen as being horrible in anyway. Your remarks about Kate's wedding dress being common, or that perhaps she should have had a rental wedding dress, wasn't the nicest thing to say. That wedding was for us Brits, a very special day, so for you to say things like that was really unnecessary! I think this discussion is pointless. I think, that there is freedom of speech in a civilized country like the United Kingdom!!!
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Post by Gg on May 7, 2011 2:35:03 GMT 8
Please respect each other here guys. If you are going to post something, you are ultimately responsible and accountable to accept the reaction, that is the price of that freedom - and respect for each other is a forum guideline. And I get that there is a language barrier inherant here. Virtual community or not I consider everyone here a real person. Expressing a contrary opinion is obviously a subjective thing, healthy debate obviously makes the forum dynamic, but it being done so respectfully is simply required. A little sensitivity is also an act of a civilized community.
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Post by cat on May 7, 2011 3:07:29 GMT 8
I think this discussion is pointless. I think, that there is freedom of speech in a civilized country like the United Kingdom!!! Lynette, it is now clear to me that you have no respect for anyone or anything. Aside from your recent negative remarks regarding Kate's wedding dress, you frequently post about the private lives of celebrities on this forum. The subject of celebrity private lives does not belong on this forum! I am now going to ignore you (and your above comment), with the same contempt in which it was written. Have a nice day!
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Post by lynette on May 7, 2011 19:53:32 GMT 8
Please respect each other here guys. If you are going to post something, you are ultimately responsible and accountable to accept the reaction, that is the price of that freedom - and respect for each other is a forum guideline. And I get that there is a language barrier inherant here. Virtual community or not I consider everyone here a real person. Expressing a contrary opinion is obviously a subjective thing, healthy debate obviously makes the forum dynamic, but it being done so respectfully is simply required. A little sensitivity is also an act of a civilized community. Gg You're right, but I really do not know what I have written offensive. I do not fault anything. Cat's solution on its way and I will adapt it. I am not going to make a tense atmosphere for a wedding dress! And I ended up with this issue.
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Post by lynette on May 7, 2011 19:54:43 GMT 8
I think this discussion is pointless. I think, that there is freedom of speech in a civilized country like the United Kingdom!!! Lynette, it is now clear to me that you have no respect for anyone or anything. Aside from your recent negative remarks regarding Kate's wedding dress, you frequently post about the private lives of celebrities on this forum. The subject of celebrity private lives does not belong on this forum! I am now going to ignore you (and your above comment), with the same contempt in which it was written. Have a nice day! I got the impression that I am the person who has a problem with respecting other people. I did not write anything dirty about Kate. I have my opinion and I have a habit of agreeing with everyone just for the feeling of affection and sympathy. I do not care what you think about it. Ignore me if you think it's right, I will adapt to you. I take your reaction to the bird's-eye view. Have a nice day.
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Post by Gg on May 8, 2011 5:43:34 GMT 8
I'm not, ever, saying I think acquiescing to the popular opinion is the only polite thing. That would be boring. But when you see an outpouring of national bride about a wedding, a highly symbolic one for many brits, and you go on to call their new" princess", their new future queen, in essense, "common" it may feel to them that you're insulting them, their opinion, and something that they are proud of. It's not about the dress it's about the principal. Not saying you have to agree, but to have the sensitivity to realize your words will sting and they will feel a need to defend their opinion, their future queen. If it's not important, then don't post it for them to see.
When you go into a workshop, we have this rule that, above all, it remain an emotionally safe place for everybody- all criticism stated constructively and with personal responsibility. The best work happens that way, the most growth, the most dynamic performance, the only absolute exploration. I think we deserve that from each other here. If you don't agree with someone's opinion, and feel a contrary opinion will bring something dynamic to the discussion it is easily done with a constructive approach... " I kind of expected a more elaborate dress, but I guess even here we have heard that they are an understated couple. In these economic times maybe that's for the best, particularly for the British taxpayer, but I missed all the meringue of diana's dress"... does that makes sense?
It's like Bathory- some people are really mean in their reviews of that film...there's nothing constructive in it, unless to say" the roller skating monks confused me. Does anyone have any insite on that directorial decision". No one need feel that their opinion is being diminished or attacked. If you just got done heralding your favorite actor and someone replied that the actor was untalented and ugly... I think most of us would feel that we, personally, our taste, was also being insulted. Saying instead -"he doesn't do it for me but... his films are entertaining", or "I'm just not that into costume dramas", is every bit as honest without creating conflict.
Brits are proud of their new "princess", it's fair to avoid raining on their parade. I worried when I saw that initial comment that there might be a backlash. You all know, the only intention here is mutual respect, dynamic respectful discussion, and happiness. It is our relationship with each other, and the respect we uphold for each other and the actor (and he works and loves) we discuss here, that makes this place special. Especially for the internet.
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Post by lynette on May 8, 2011 6:51:50 GMT 8
I understand that, Gg, but I wrote that I don't have nothing against the British. I personally do not have excessive nationalist feelings and therefore seemed natural for me to write my opinion, even though some of them unflattering, but I'm too impulsive - my heart, that I have to say. I do not intend to offend the British people in some way. Czech mentality is different in this regard, the Czech nation is taken with humor and lightness /we are able to make fun of themselves as the nation, we are not too serious in thinking about themselves/... Therefore, simple misunderstanding. I don't thought, that I might because my opinion to the British people offend. Therefore, I wrote what I wrote about the wedding and I had no idea that that I offended some people in the UK. I lack a sense of empathy, sometimes, because I used to harder forms of the Czech community, so I took it as an innocent verbal note. Other country, other habits. I hope that explained it.
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