jenny
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Post by jenny on Apr 18, 2009 2:01:06 GMT 8
amazon.ca has in stock copies. Found it when I bought a little Hans as a birthday gift to myself! Bought Tess...NICCCCCCE!
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Post by cat on May 3, 2009 21:10:59 GMT 8
I've not long finished watching this. It is certainly one of the more complex films that I watched, and I would have to watch this film a few times to really appreciate it. It is a shame that Tomas was not in the film more. From what others have written in this thread about the book, he seems to be quite an integral character.
All in all, it was enjoyable. And I loved the scenic shots. Very nice!
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Post by Laura2102 on May 9, 2009 6:24:46 GMT 8
This is one of the few Hans' projects I've only watched once. It was so complex and a very deep dark story. The fact that Tomas wasn't in it an awful lot added to the story I felt, mind you it has been a while since I watched it, I may try and watch it again in the next couple of weeks.
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brooke
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Post by brooke on May 21, 2009 23:34:25 GMT 8
Like Laura I did watch it once as a whole. And a hard time I had doing it. I have this thing with films: if I can't sympathize with the protagonist, I cannot find it in me to like a film. The beginning was promising. Little Dina had all my sympathies, but later on she grew so erratic, that I couldn't follow her motives anymore. In addition there were many scenes where in my opinion Maria Bonnevie was overacting (too many wide-eyed stares for my taste). But it's one. like Deathwatch, to be watched with fast forward This is what I do when I need a Hans-fix. I usually fast forward to his scenes (just under 10 min out of 125, yes I checked) and to the extras. Hans is actually really good at playing football (soccer for you non-Europeans) |
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Post by frenchpianism on May 22, 2009 14:06:17 GMT 8
just watched the film....frankly its pschologically disturbing. I think the story was not well developed but there are good scenes, mostly hans-related. Poor tomas (hans) is being used by the weirdo heroine?  whenever she needs him. Pity the film would do better if the "love or no love" for tomas was developed further...it seems the character was in just for the sex and the delivery of baby. That really gross me out the screaming and later the massive bleeding miscarriage. May watch it again..fast forward..only for hans. ha |
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Post by lynette on May 22, 2009 16:39:23 GMT 8
Quite special film.Dina was a complete psycho and sexual machine. Tomas was there very rarely. I saw this movie on the website youtube.com. I download it to my PC. Yet, this movie does not belong to my Favorites from Hans-making.
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Post by Virgil Reality on May 22, 2009 18:02:11 GMT 8
Oh I remember when this was in production, and certain pictures of Tomas and Dina were posted on the official site.  Some of us managed to get our hands on the novel Dina's Bokk, that this is based on and there was a lot of discussion in quite a bit of depth on the old board which sadly ( or maybe it's just as well ) got deleted. Was it Gg who had the theory that Dina was autistic? Or some other diagnosis? Certainly Maria overplayed her somewhat but the main fault of the novel IMO is that it doesn't make it clear the special relationship that Dina and Tomas have. He's more than just her plaything in the book so it's more realistic why he continues to pine after her. The most disappointing scene of all is the funeral scene - They did NOT film it like I would have and in the book, they sit around afterwards eating the food that's set out for the wedding feast, feeding each other etc. She can be quite tender to Tomas in the book and I don't think she's nice to him at all in the movie. There are also some other scenes which invi=olved Tomas which would have been great if included in the movie. I know they can't include everything and we don't know what ended up on the cutting room floor. Overall, a disappointment - What might have been. |
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brooke
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Post by brooke on May 23, 2009 19:31:59 GMT 8
Poor tomas (hans) is being used by the weirdo heroine? whenever she needs him...it seems the character was in just for the sex ...and I don't think she's nice to him at all in the movie. That's exactly what I thought too. I felt for Tomas most in the scene (zhivago uses as her avatar), when he plucks up all his courage and confronts Dina about his fatherhood. She never even says one word to him. Or when Dina comes into the the stable for sex and Tomas tries to be tender afterwards, she slaps him away. Most frustrating. Tomas looks a bit frightened by Dina's assault...  and not so happy afterwards  |
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Post by lynette on May 24, 2009 5:19:23 GMT 8
I agree. This behavior was very nasty to him. Still, I liked those scenes. I tried to understand from the psychological point of view.
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Post by frenchpianism on May 29, 2009 16:12:52 GMT 8
hahaha...i mentioned before I did not quite like this movie except for all the Hans related scenes. Funny how I happened to see it in code 3, Asia region and the cover of topless Hans and the lead actress compels me to add the video to my ever growing Hans dvd collection.
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scarredsoul
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I became insane with long intervals of horrible sanity ~ E.G.P.
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Post by scarredsoul on May 30, 2009 2:49:46 GMT 8
Lynette! You rock! Thank you for posting all of that...I'm having one of my days suffering from RLS (for those that don't know, it's restless leg syndrome, typically found in arthritis patients but also in burn patients as well) and it's killing me, keeping me from sleeping and doing much else too...I've managed to release the hound, toss on my headphones and found something to watch.
I typically like the out there kind of movies, psychological twitchers always get me going. I understand overacting, movies from books sometimes suffer from that simply because the actors tend to not read the book before they try to play the character but at the same time, I'm looking forward to getting into it, I'm a big psych major kind of person so I'm hopeful for something I might like.
If I do...how would I go about actually owning it?
The only problem I may have with it is Christopher Eccelston...I'm really not fond of him
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scarredsoul
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Post by scarredsoul on May 30, 2009 12:46:20 GMT 8
I don't know if this counts as a spoiler or not so to be safe, I'll cover it...there's a lot going on that's in the film....just a take on it...
I think I may have figured out what's wrong with Dina...I think she might have been autistic before what happened to her mother but after that it's the abuse she suffered that turned her into the wild little thing...everything she's seemed to care about gets taken away or winds up becoming something that's more of a danger to her than anything else....it makes her turn into something worse than what she was to begin with....
Through most of it, I want to strangle her father, that man really has no idea what the hell he's done to his daughter by neglecting her in the barn does he? It's ultimately driven her into an almost bipolar state with nice bits of schizophrenic hallucinations and delusions in there...she's certifiable but at the same time, I can't blame her. Anyone who's ever meant anything to her, her mother, the cellist/teacher guy (I can't remember his name), her father even, and of course Leo at the end...everyone has either left her or hurt her in some way...she's gotten told that heaven is where you go so there's no pain, no suffering
I think she got it put into her head that death = safety and security so killing people, putting her husband out of his misery and getting Leo the hell away from her, it was a good thing, it was protecting them both.
I think I figured out the ordeal with Hans' Thomas though...she loved him right, it's sort of apparent that he's not just a fling, he's almost the one person that she manages to love enough that she doesn't want him in her bed very often, she doesn't want him to know that he's loved...she treats him like a toy so maybe he won't leave her. Least...that's what I gathered
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Post by lynette on May 31, 2009 5:45:09 GMT 8
Lynette! You rock! Thank you for posting all of that...I'm having one of my days suffering from RLS (for those that don't know, it's restless leg syndrome, typically found in arthritis patients but also in burn patients as well) and it's killing me, keeping me from sleeping and doing much else too...I've managed to release the hound, toss on my headphones and found something to watch. I typically like the out there kind of movies, psychological twitchers always get me going. I understand overacting, movies from books sometimes suffer from that simply because the actors tend to not read the book before they try to play the character but at the same time, I'm looking forward to getting into it, I'm a big psych major kind of person so I'm hopeful for something I might like. If I do...how would I go about actually owning it? The only problem I may have with it is Christopher Eccelston...I'm really not fond of him Exactly!  Christopher Eccelston also does not belong to my Favorites. I was always very contemplative and introverted person, sometimes it's the damage. |
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Post by lynette on May 31, 2009 5:48:17 GMT 8
I don't know if this counts as a spoiler or not so to be safe, I'll cover it...there's a lot going on that's in the film....just a take on it... I think I may have figured out what's wrong with Dina...I think she might have been autistic before what happened to her mother but after that it's the abuse she suffered that turned her into the wild little thing...everything she's seemed to care about gets taken away or winds up becoming something that's more of a danger to her than anything else....it makes her turn into something worse than what she was to begin with....
Through most of it, I want to strangle her father, that man really has no idea what the hell he's done to his daughter by neglecting her in the barn does he? It's ultimately driven her into an almost bipolar state with nice bits of schizophrenic hallucinations and delusions in there...she's certifiable but at the same time, I can't blame her. Anyone who's ever meant anything to her, her mother, the cellist/teacher guy (I can't remember his name), her father even, and of course Leo at the end...everyone has either left her or hurt her in some way...she's gotten told that heaven is where you go so there's no pain, no suffering
I think she got it put into her head that death = safety and security so killing people, putting her husband out of his misery and getting Leo the hell away from her, it was a good thing, it was protecting them both.I think I figured out the ordeal with Hans' Thomas though...she loved him right, it's sort of apparent that he's not just a fling, he's almost the one person that she manages to love enough that she doesn't want him in her bed very often, she doesn't want him to know that he's loved...she treats him like a toy so maybe he won't leave her. Least...that's what I gathered I think it could be. |
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scarredsoul
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I became insane with long intervals of horrible sanity ~ E.G.P.
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Post by scarredsoul on May 31, 2009 9:48:42 GMT 8
Could be a spoiler or could be what's going on?
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whenever she needs him. Pity the film would do better if the "love or no love" for tomas was developed further...it seems the character was in just for the sex and the delivery of baby. That really gross me out the screaming and later the massive bleeding miscarriage.
